Published on November 6, 2008 By ZubaZ In Politics

I've seen a number of posts and a heard a number of radio comments that suggests that the Republican Party needs to change. I believe that in the past election they failed to have a platform and a communications plan to convince the people who they are, how they represent the people, and what what they stand for.

I've hear folks saying that the party needs to become more centrist if they want to win future elections.

But how can they still be Republicans if they go too much the the center?  At that point they are the Centrist party.

I think the message should be short and sweet:

 

  • We will protect our borders from foreign invasion
  • We will have less Federal government in your lives
    • You can succeed or fail on your own
  • We will provide a Flat tax or Fair tax
    • We are all created equal we should share the burden equally

 

You can read the current platform here: http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/

What do you think needs to change?  Platform?  Communication plan?  More to the right?  More to the center?  More towards stict contitution?


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on Jul 31, 2012

djashdj
I don't need to make more money if my money was worth more.

There's a seed of real wisdom in that statement if you just think it through.

on Jul 31, 2012

djashdj,

resurrecting Zubaz' post.....what fun and great timing! 

 

 

 

on Jul 31, 2012

Wow.  Necro-post.  I'd forgotten I wrote this . . now I have to see how smart I was . . .

 

Also . .  where I stand now:

 

 

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front

on Jul 31, 2012

now I have to see how smart I was . . .

I was thinking the same thing. 

 

 

lulapilgrim
This is the way I'm formulating it....

We're stuck with Obama and I'm guessing that if he makes good on his campaign promises, he's going lead the Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer type Democrats to the Far Left...

Yup..3 plus years of Obama-machination has moved the nation to the Far Left. If re-elected, we'll be over the cliff. 

lulapilgrim
The result is people will see through life experience that Liberalism/Socialism aren't happy systems to live under...they don't produce happy people....big government is a burden to the people and giving up freedoms is not going to go over well.....by the time the next election ...2 years from now....the Republican party and what it stands for is going to look real good even to some of them..

I think this is still true today. Even some die hard Democrats aren't following in lock-step. Some are distancing themselves from Obama and his policies. That's why he's bringing in the former lecher-in-chief Clinton.

lulapilgrim
In the meantime the Grand Old Party is going to have to re-group, revamp, and re-organize. We are going to have to weed out the RINOs and launder out the Rockefeller Republicans.

Liberal Republicans are phonies and drag the party down...the conservatives is where it's at to keep the party on target...and becasue the media is not even remotely fair and impartial, we've got to develop other ways and better ways to get our message out to the people. I think the answer is strong grassroots and good effective communication.  

This is where the Tea Party comes in. They were effective in 2010, in some of the primary elections already held and they'll be just as effective in November, 2012. 

Today's vote in Texas should tell a tale. 

on Jul 31, 2012

djashdj
2.  Religion issues should not be part of politics.  

Like it or not, Religion issues are moral and ethical issues and should always be part of not only politics but also of every part of life.

 

djashdj
This country was founded on separation of church and state.

Was not. The US Constitution prohibiition against "an establishment of religion" forbade only the federal establishment of a single national demomination. 

In 1789 when the Constitution was drafted, America was steeped in Protestantism. It was completely permissable for the states to have their own state established denominations.

djashdj
3.  If they actually brought jobs back to the country instead of shipping them over sees.  

How many jobs would there be if they drill, drill, drill? and build the gas pipeline? To their credit, the Republicans understand this, while the Democarts are so beholden to their special interests groups, like the Unions and Green radical environmentalists, that they'll never be willing to open our own natural resources.

 

 

on Jul 31, 2012

Also . .  where I stand now:

Don't you think Romney will give a place at the convention table and beyond as far as the Libertarians are concerned. Ron Paul has quite a loyal following that should not be dismissed.

  

on Aug 03, 2012

djashdj
1. Campaign Finance reform. My dollar should mean more than Coca-Cola's dollar.

Your dollar is worth the same.  They just have a lot more of them.

on Aug 03, 2012

Obama has become far more right / authoritarian then in 2008.

There is almost no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans now.

http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

on Aug 03, 2012

LORD-ORION
Obama has become far more right / authoritarian then in 2008.

Right wing and authoritarian are the opposite.

on Aug 04, 2012

taltamir

Quoting LORD-ORION, reply 38Obama has become far more right / authoritarian then in 2008.

Right wing and authoritarian are the opposite.

They are not. They are decoupled. The site is actually explaining this.

Or did you miss the whole, we hate gays, immigrants, and like throwing people in jail to make a buck memo that most right wing parties advocate these days?

on Aug 04, 2012

LORD-ORION
Obama has become far more right / authoritarian then in 2008.

 

I just read the link you provided and don't understand what "authoritarian" means as you use it here.  Perhaps it would help to define it.

I disagree Obama has become far more right then in 2008. As President, Obama promised change and he's been fulfilling that that promise. Change to what? Change from a Republic government that protected life, liberty and property as self evident truths endowed by the Creator toward total tyranny against these unalienable rights.

LORD-ORION
There is almost no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans now.

I'd say, for the most part, this is true of the establishment Republicans. We call them RINO's...Republican In Name Only.

 

 

on Aug 04, 2012

LORD-ORION
Or did you miss the whole, we hate gays, immigrants, and like throwing people in jail to make a buck memo that most right wing parties advocate these days?

This is a gross hyperbole. 

on Aug 04, 2012

I suppose you could take the political compass test to see what a tyrant you really are lula.

 

on Aug 04, 2012

LORD-ORION
Or did you miss the whole, we hate gays, immigrants, and like throwing people in jail to make a buck memo that most right wing parties advocate these days?

1. The official democrat platform is "no gay marriage", Don't Ask Don't Tell was implemented by democrats (clinton), the religious right does not hate gays but thinks they are sinners in need of salvation (no different then any of other myriad sins), and conservatives are not exclusively made up of the religious right.

2. We love immigrants, we don't like criminals. Illegal immigration is a crime and the people smuggling them in also smuggle in terrorist, encoded messages in arabic, drugs, weapons, and organized crime. Securing the border is not a hate of immigrants.

3. I have no idea what the throwing people in jail to make a buck thing is referring to.

They are not. They are decoupled

Right wingers explicitly oppose the authoritarians in the right. The very basis of their platform is the conservation of the separation of powers and weak central government as outlined in the constitution.

on Aug 05, 2012

I suppose this is the fundamental problem with most Americans when it comes to politics.

Most cannot understand that "leftist commie" Obama has shifted more to the right through his actual actions and is pretty much at the spot the 2008 Republican platform was run on, and is way more right then previous Republican platforms of the past.

Or that "leftist" Obama's policies would make him a hardcore conservative right winger in any other country on the planet.

The Political Compass site's score are not relative, they are based on political science, and it shows that there has been a fundamental shift to further right wing economics at the same time there has been an erosion in civil liberties in the name of fighting terrorism in pretty much all Western democracies. Right wing / Left wing economic policies need to be decoupled from Authoritarian / Libertarian outlooks, because as shown, most Americans have their head in the sand when it comes to political science and what policies their parties are actually implementing.

Also, it is funny that you guys are so uptight that I can't even be pissed off that Obama's policies have become that of a typical Republican, because it insults the typical Republicans with the same policies.

 

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