I just read an article about a suburb of Cleveland OH that has become a ghost town due to all the evictions etcetera in the area.

The fact is that people that couldn't afford houses bought houses. Sometimes they lied about jobs or income, sometimes lenders didn't check or didn't care if the borrowers could afford to make payments. In many cases people got variable rate mortgages and got in trouble when (surprise, surprise) the rates went up. Lenders are businesses. Their job is to make money off borrowers. If they can loan, foreclose, evict and resell at a profit that's their right. I hope that their shareholders are cool with that plan (when it works). The problem now is that the lenders can't resell the foreclosures and aren't making any money. They're now rethinking their lending practices aren't they.

Unfortunately, any borrowers that might have been in the market for a house can't meet criteria now to buy those houses.

You know who the big winners are right now? Rental companies. Apartment rentals must be going through the roof.

There's enough blame to go around. There is no one responsible party. Everyone was out to screw whoever they could to get the best deal right away.

And one other thing . . the government has no place trying to fix what is really just a huge market adjustment. Too bad it's an election year and it's good "business" to get involved and screw up those of us who were responsible about borrowing responsibly. Because, in the end, it's those of us the made good choices that are paying for the idiots who were unprepared for change

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on Jan 28, 2008

I think it goes beyond "having no place".  The government cannot fix what is inherantly beyond their control (and as you point out is nor broken to begin with).

The market is fixing itself.  But like all wounds, you do not save every cell when healing.  It may not be "fair", but it is efficient.

on Jan 28, 2008

From the reports I've heard, rents are falling in most areas too.  Yeah a lot of people who were homeowners a few months ago are now looking at rentals, but many markets overbuilt because of the housing bubble, so there are still a lot more renters than available rental units.

Sometimes I wonder if the housing bubble isn't the long term result of the government bailing out the tech bubble.

 

on Jan 28, 2008
I think it goes beyond "having no place". The government cannot fix what is inherantly beyond their control
Good point. I should have said that the government getting involved in something it can't control does no one any good. I should further state that I have not looked at increase in the rental market farther than anecdotal evidence from friends renting in the area.
on Jan 28, 2008

I should have said that the government getting involved in something it can't control does no one any good.

Better point, and better stated that I did.

on Jan 28, 2008
Bush & Mozilo (CountryWide CEO). Just ask any lefty.
on Jan 28, 2008
Absolutely it was the greedy mortgage companies' fault.  They went after desperate potential homeowners who would agree to anything because they wanted to own a home of their own. 
on Jan 28, 2008
Absolutely it was the greedy mortgage companies' fault.
There's no culpability of those who choose to take loans they couldn't afford? "they went after" . . How exactly did they do that? Hiding the rates? Not telling borrowers that rates might go up? Crazy talk. The lenders had a role, no doubt, but to put it all on them removes any power that the individual has. It's insulting to the individual and promotes the concept that some outside force (the Feds) needs to step in and resolve the situation. Both the lender and the borrowers made choices. That is a good thing. Many of them made bad choices That is their right. Now it's time for both sides to start over and build a working relationship based on real fiscal data not the false dream that both groups had.
on Jan 28, 2008
desperate potential homeowners who...wanted to own a home of their own.


on Jan 28, 2008
Sorry, I just had to add in my lefty, liberal point of view.   

I have no sympathy for the mortgage companies, that's all.
on Jan 29, 2008

Sorry, I just had to add in my lefty, liberal point of view.

I have no sympathy for the mortgage companies, that's all.

But you have a wicked sense of humor!

on Jan 31, 2008
Sorry, I just had to add in my lefty, liberal point of view. I have no sympathy for the mortgage companies, that's all.


And I have little sympathy to people who took the deal knowing full well they couldn't afford the increase when it hit. And now they want to goverment to bail them out.
I'm getting fed up with all the people that want the tax payers to take care of them. The thinking now days seems to be, if you earn enough money to pay taxes, you must be a greedy SOB. Some folks go through life, and never bother to educate or better themselves, but instead stand around with their hand out.

And BTW.... congress is just as much to blame for this mess as the lenders.

And why is everything a fracking 'crisis' these days??

on Jan 31, 2008
And BTW.... congress is just as much to blame for this mess as the lenders.
I'd be interested in why you think so. I don't recall mortgage control in the Constitution unless you want to stretch the regulating trade" clause.
on Jan 31, 2008
Sorry, I should have kept my 'mouth' shut on that one, since I can't find the info again, or not yet anyway. I retract the statement about congress......
on Jan 31, 2008
Koasati . . I'll wait because I'm interested, not because I want to argue. OK?
on Jan 31, 2008

And why is everything a fracking 'crisis' these days??

Dog bites man - not news.  Man bites dog - news.  And in an election year, each side has to blame the other for something, so they make a crises out of it.

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